Electronic Ignition
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1973 454 MONTE
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Electronic Ignition
was going to convert my old points system to Electronic Ignition, but im unsure on whats best, should I just get a Electronic Ignition kit, or can I just buy a full new distributor set up like this. http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-850001R/
Dead Man- G3GM Member
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Re: Electronic Ignition
i bought one of these for my 73 monte. no complaints yet. now going on 2 years.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SBC-BBC-CHEVY-V8-350-383-HEI-DISTRIBUTOR-WITH-65-K-COIL-WPM-HEI-01-R-/190723503399?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2c6801b527&vxp=mtr
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sbc-Bbc-Chevy-Hei-Distributor-Extreme-65k-Coil-383-350-/200776256679?forcev4exp=true&forceRpt=true
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SBC-BBC-GM-CHEVY-V8-350-383-COIL-HEI-Racing-Distributor-65-000-65k-Red-Cap-/130728093185?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1e70006601&vxp=mtr
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SBC-BBC-CHEVY-V8-350-383-HEI-DISTRIBUTOR-WITH-65-K-COIL-WPM-HEI-01-R-/190723503399?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2c6801b527&vxp=mtr
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sbc-Bbc-Chevy-Hei-Distributor-Extreme-65k-Coil-383-350-/200776256679?forcev4exp=true&forceRpt=true
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SBC-BBC-GM-CHEVY-V8-350-383-COIL-HEI-Racing-Distributor-65-000-65k-Red-Cap-/130728093185?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1e70006601&vxp=mtr
1973 454 MONTE- Donating Member
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Re: Electronic Ignition
those are a good deal cheaper too, I will check into those. seems almost to easy, is it just a drop in type mod or will it go into a full rewire.
Dead Man- G3GM Member
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I was running that same HEI red distributor in my 70. Lasted a couple of months, went to the track ran 12 passes, made it a mile from my house and the pins the hold the advance weights broke off and slung the weights around completely destroying everything inside.
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BlackChevelleSS- Management
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Re: Electronic Ignition
from what i've heard there is a different voltage going to the points coil than the hei coil.
in my small block 73 i once had i just put a pigtail to the exsisting wire and was done.
but i bought an NOS engine harness for the 73-454 and it had 2 pigtails out of it for either. so i just used the hei plug and plugged in the tac wire and off i went.
in my small block 73 i once had i just put a pigtail to the exsisting wire and was done.
but i bought an NOS engine harness for the 73-454 and it had 2 pigtails out of it for either. so i just used the hei plug and plugged in the tac wire and off i went.
1973 454 MONTE- Donating Member
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Re: Electronic Ignition
REAL QUICK ARE YOU JUST TRYING TO STAY WITH THE ORIGINAL DIST., OR ?73ssbb wrote:thanks for the info guys
MSD MAKES A SMALLER DIST. THAT IS FULLY SELF CONTAINED YOU MIGHT WANT TO LOOK FURTHER, JUST IN CASE YOU EVER NEED THE EXTRA SPACE AROUND THE INTAKE, THEY ALSO LOOK KINDA COOL OVER THE HEI
2fat2fly- Donating Member
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Re: Electronic Ignition
well im not sure its been years since ive messed with stuff like this. I know for sure mine is needing some attention, so I figured while I was at it I might as well up grade to something better with better spark and such.
Dead Man- G3GM Member
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If you like the stock look put a petronix unit in there. Mine has been in my 73 for years,you would never know its there and you use your stock distributor the car pulls better too,I have their plug wires and coil as well.
ant7377- G3GM Addict
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1973 454 MONTE wrote:from what i've heard there is a different voltage going to the points coil than the hei coil.
in my small block 73 i once had i just put a pigtail to the exsisting wire and was done.
The points used a resistance wire to lower the voltage to keep from burning them out prematurely. Therefore, this wire should not be used for the HEI, which expects a full 12 volts. It will still run, but you won't get peak performance out of it. The wire should be 16ga directly from a switched ignition source.
thatfnthing- Donating Member
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awesome, I will just run a new wire, thanks guys.
Dead Man- G3GM Member
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I just recently switched to a msd Pro Billet HEI unit, its a little $$$ but I noticed a big difference in High RPM power over stock HEI
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BlackChevelleSS- Management
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Re: Electronic Ignition
well the time has come going to order this tomorrow night just want to double check with you all before I hit the buy button, just making sure this is all I will need to convert my points to hei. thanks in advance
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-csum2210
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-csum2210
Dead Man- G3GM Member
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You might want to add a pigtail connector to your order. Remember to delete the resistor in the factory power lead.
http://www.summitracing.com/search?keyword=hei%20pigtail&dds=1
http://www.summitracing.com/search?keyword=hei%20pigtail&dds=1
bigredlaguna- G3GM Senior Member
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Re: Electronic Ignition
If you just want to upgrade to electronic ignition without having to use a CDI box, I'd go with this distributor. This one has vacuum advance.
http://www.skipwhiteperformance.com/detail.aspx?Item=PE-323-R
If your running a CDI (MSD) box, I'd run this distributor. No vacuum advance on this one.
http://www.skipwhiteperformance.com/detail.aspx?Item=6601-R
Or if you like the large GM HEI cap, take a look at these.
http://www.skipwhiteperformance.com/listview.aspx?Product=A&Sub=A
If your not running a big cam or high compression, I'd go with the 2nd choice with the vacuum advance.
I know 2 guys who have been running these distributors for several years with no problems. And the price cant be beat and the internals are interchangeable with other manufacturers.
Just FYI.
Oh yeah, and definitely run a new "keyed" hot wire to power any electronic distributor you go with.
http://www.skipwhiteperformance.com/detail.aspx?Item=PE-323-R
If your running a CDI (MSD) box, I'd run this distributor. No vacuum advance on this one.
http://www.skipwhiteperformance.com/detail.aspx?Item=6601-R
Or if you like the large GM HEI cap, take a look at these.
http://www.skipwhiteperformance.com/listview.aspx?Product=A&Sub=A
If your not running a big cam or high compression, I'd go with the 2nd choice with the vacuum advance.
I know 2 guys who have been running these distributors for several years with no problems. And the price cant be beat and the internals are interchangeable with other manufacturers.
Just FYI.
Oh yeah, and definitely run a new "keyed" hot wire to power any electronic distributor you go with.
Joe73- Donating Member
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Re: Electronic Ignition
thanks for the info, the reason Im wanting to stay with summit I have some credit there Im gonna use lol. but with the link I posted will I need a coil or cdi box running that unit or can I just ad the power wire and be on my way. Im going to call them and ask them will it clear everything after reading that.
Dead Man- G3GM Member
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Re: Electronic Ignition
If you look at the fuse block, you will see some markings for IGN, which is switched power, that you can use for your HEI. A spade connector will slide onto the terminal next to the IGN marking on the fuse block.
You don't need anything like a CDI or other ign box with an HEI distributor, just the connector that goes on the distributor, like bigredlaguna mentioned. That pigtail is also available from Summit.
I've been dealing with Summit since 1983, and they have the best customer service I've ever had.
You don't need anything like a CDI or other ign box with an HEI distributor, just the connector that goes on the distributor, like bigredlaguna mentioned. That pigtail is also available from Summit.
I've been dealing with Summit since 1983, and they have the best customer service I've ever had.
pila- Donating Member
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Re: Electronic Ignition
yeah I like them too, thanks guys, about to order everything along with fuel pump, will update after intall.
Dead Man- G3GM Member
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