Re: New guy here from Florida

by thepossumface Tue May 07, 2013 9:34 pm

oh thanks guys Ill have to grab some tomorrow! and hope it works.
And Limey I sent you a PM about them headers, I would like to get them

by Limey SE Tue May 07, 2013 9:38 pm

he Just told me Price 80 plus ship

by thepossumface Wed May 08, 2013 9:08 pm

okay so I was looking at some stuff for the car cause 160hp just wont cut it and has a sloooooooow accleration (maybe its just my car??)
i was looking at a stroker kit for a 350, do i have to bore the engine over? I really dont want to if I dont have to. any advice guys?
also has anyone put a winters sidewinder shifter on a th350?
would like to get this thing on a roll sense I sold my gas saver and got some money to put into her.

by ant7377 Wed May 08, 2013 10:59 pm

Try using studs instead of bolts to seal the valve covers. Easy to just place the gasket then the cover and you will know its all straight. Then use some nylock nuts to tighten it down,works well.

by 77mali Thu May 09, 2013 7:08 am

Strokers will require cutting the block so the bigger crank can rotate & clear near the main bearings. They use a crank from a GM 400 small block (376 stroke vs standard 348). The bore size is also increased to a 383 or slightly larger vs 350 bore (6.28 liters vs 5.7). Usually w/ a set up like that depending on your heads & cam you'll get between 400-500 HP.

A new cam and new heads will wake up your motor & you can keep the bottom end & the pistons you have in there. I have a mild 350 build with vortec heads & manifold making about 350 horses.

by thepossumface Thu May 09, 2013 7:48 am

or should i do a 454 and save the 350? would i have to redo the mounts or is it a drop & go? im sure a 454 has quite more stock hp and these came with them in the SS if im correct

by Limey SE Thu May 09, 2013 8:00 am

yea 15 or so more HP in stock form LOL and PM sent

by 77mali Thu May 09, 2013 8:15 am

The 73 "G3" 454 had 275 or 285 HP (SAE Net), which was the best of them.

You can get a GM "Goodwrench" 350 replacement motor & drop it right in & it'll have 290 HP for cheap. The 454 has lots of torque though, which is what's needed to move these whales around town.

A few members are doing LS-1 swaps w/ used motors. Seems like a good value right now for the money & return on performance but you'll need a transmission upgrade also & maybe the rear gears if you have the usual 2.73 or 3.08 in the back.

by thepossumface Thu May 09, 2013 8:22 am

i may look into thanks, im trying to stay away from EFI ( personal preference ) and ive came across 2 good deals for a 350 block or looks to be a 80s model 454 for 500, which would i get more out of ither way id build it a little before i drop it in

by Limey SE Thu May 09, 2013 8:29 am

350 parts are more readily available on the cheap if you wanna stay in that range but they always say no replacement for displacement. I say hogwash you can get just as power from the 350 ( just not the torque )

by thepossumface Thu May 09, 2013 8:55 am

well i do like tourque haha, id just like to beat these ricers we got here, cause im tired of hearing fart cans next to me........but will the 454 be drop n go or is there fab work required?

by Limey SE Thu May 09, 2013 8:57 am

drop in for the most part

by thepossumface Thu May 09, 2013 9:10 pm

i think ima stay with a 350 i got my summit book and just wanted to start buying it all lol, but ima go headers, holly carb for now and put 3.73 or 4.10 gears, which is better? and get my winters shifter what yall think?

by dynchel Thu May 09, 2013 9:15 pm

thepossumface wrote:i think ima stay with a 350 i got my summit book and just wanted to start buying it all lol, but ima go headers, holly carb for now and put 3.73 or 4.10 gears, which is better? and get my winters shifter what yall think?

. You don't want 4.10's if you ever plan go drive on the freeway. I have 3.73's and even they are a bit much for extended high speed driving. You would probably be happier with 3.42's, but the choice is yours.

by thepossumface Thu May 09, 2013 9:42 pm

what is in a stock one? i was told its a posi ( whatever that is) but i had a buddy with 3.73 in a stock stang and it burnt tires. and wont a gear swap improve acceleration?

by thatfnthing Thu May 09, 2013 11:01 pm

A higher gear will definitely help acceleration. However, take the car on the highway and it will be screaming at over 3000 RPM. You will hate it, over work the motor, and have hideous mileage. If running the stock 3-speed auto (TH350 or TH400), the absolute max you want to go is 3.42 (which is probably still too high). The stock rear will likely have a 3.08 or 2.73 gearset. To do 3.73 and up, you will need an overdrive trans like the TH200-4R or TH700-R4 to knock the RPMs down.

by thepossumface Thu May 09, 2013 11:23 pm

alright thanks, i do want to get a 700r4 for OD, and i know it bolts up, will the drive shaft be the same? i may need to rebuild it anyways

by bigredlaguna Fri May 10, 2013 2:12 am

700r4's need the driveshaft to be shortened, and the crossmember moved back. You also need to figure out if you want to keep the lockup function of the torque converter. They are plentiful and can be had for cheap.

2004r is as direct a swap as it gets. Same size as a th350, same driveshaft, but I think the crossmember still needs to be moved back. Some have lockup, and some don't.

Both need the the tps cable adjusted correctly for proper, reliable operation and is perhaps the most critical thing to do other than making sure all the bolts are tight.

Good luck with your car!

by thatfnthing Fri May 10, 2013 12:05 pm

bigredlaguna is spot on. The 200-4R is a direct swap for our cars. The x-member does have to be moved back to the TH400 position on the frame, but that's it. It's also an inch thinner on each side than the stock TH350, giving you more working room -- always a plus. Smile

The throttle valve (TV) cable must be adjusted correctly to ensure trans life, but there are high-pressure valve bodies available out there as upgrades for both trans that make this less critical.

Both the 700 and 200 use the same TV cable, but the 200 will have less travel on it, so you may need a spring-type adapter on the throttle end to absorb the excess throttle movement.

The other difference between them is the gearing: the 700 has a slightly bigger first gear (better launch) and the 200 has a slightly lower OD gear (better mileage & RPMs). Gears 2 & 3 are the same.

Lockup converters will lower the RPMs by about 200-300 on either unit, which means less work for the motor on the highway and better mileage. However, the trade off is that they weigh more and require some sort of switch (there are numerous kits out there) to activate it.

by thepossumface Sat May 11, 2013 3:46 pm

Is there any fourm members near or around carrollton ga? i found a front nose for my car but I cant pick it up till next weekend, could anyone help out? Id be willing to spare some extra cash for the help.
and side note got my long tube headers today for 80 bucks local, and should put them on today with my holley 650.

by thepossumface Sun May 12, 2013 12:29 am

http://jacksonville.craigslist.org/pts/3799704434.html
think i could swing this on a Guna?

by dragons_lair59 Sun May 12, 2013 12:32 am

Nope not a chance body lines different plus I think the length is different and why would you want to

by thepossumface Sun May 12, 2013 12:36 am

just happen to see it on c.l, and offered him 100 bucks for it guess if it wont work no need to then haha, i did find a few front noses for the car, one is up in North GA (6 hours from me) and a few el camino front square look like how Limey has on his pics.

by dragons_lair59 Sun May 12, 2013 12:37 am

Cool I'm in Iowa and have a guy with a crap load of gunas

by thepossumface Sun May 12, 2013 12:42 am

nice, he parting any of the interior parts out?

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